BATF LETTERS
 

Since writing these letters, I have learned infinitely more about gun legislation than what I knew when I wrote these.  I was asking all the wrong questions, so as it is with computers "garbage in, garbage out".  I'll be crafting two better letters in December or January to gather better information for us to ponder.

 

Letters to the BATF's Technology Division:

 

MY LETTER REGARDING STOCKS

5/18/2000

 

To: Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms
       Firearms Technology Branch
       650 Massachusetts Avenue, NW. Room 6450
       Washington, DC 20226

From:  David Sutherland

Houston, TX. 77032

 

Dear Sir or Madam:  

 

I am writing to request clarification regarding the BATF’s current legal stance regarding the SKS carbine.  The questions I have for your department specifically relate to stocks and are as follows:  

 

1)      Is it true that one can have any type of stock, except a folding style stock, on an

      SKS provided there is not a detachable magazine on the rifle as well?  If not,

      could you please provide examples of illegal stocks?

2)      Is it legal for a person to manufacture and possess a SKS with a Bullpup style stock?  If so, are there any paperwork requirements necessary to manufacture a Bullpup stock for individual use on an SKS?

3)      It is written that it is acceptable to add a detachable magazine to a SKS with a sporterized stock such as the thumbhole or Monte Carlo style stock.  What about pistol gripped stocks?  Is it acceptable to possess a pistol gripped SKS with a detachable magazine provided there are none of the other features listed in 922r?

4)      Would it be legal for a person to possess a SKS with the originally imported wooden stock (non-sporterized) and add a detachable high capacity magazine?  Could a person with an originally imported wooden stock sporterize that stock by permanently closing or eliminating the rear accessory door on that stock?

 

I sincerely appreciate your efforts in responding to this letter,  

 

David Sutherland  

 

 

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THE B.A.T.F'S RESPONSE REGARDING STOCKS

                    DEPARTMENT OF THE TREASURY

BUREAU OFALCOHOL, TOBACCO AND FIREARMS
WASHINGTON, DC 20226

 

 

SEP 25 2000

 

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3311/0-513

 

Mr. David Sutherland

Houston, Texas 77032

 

Dear Mr. Sutherland:

 

This refers to your letter of May 18, 2000, in which you asked about installing replacement stocks and detachable magazines on SKS rifles.

 

As defined in Section 921 (a) (30) (B) , of Title 18, United States Code (U.S.C.), the term “semiautomatic assault weapon” means a semiautomatic rifle that has an ability to accept a detachable magazine and has at least 2 of -

 

 

(i) a folding or telescoping stock;

 

(ii) a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon;

 

(iii) a bayonet mount;

 

(iv) a flash suppressor or a threaded barrel designed to accommodate a flash suppressor; and

 

(v) a grenade launcher.

 

A semiautomatic SKS rifle with a detachable magazine and 2 or more of the above qualifying features (i) -(v) is a semiautomatic assault weapon as defined. Please note that a thumbhole type stock or a bullpup style stock may still incorporate a pistol grip.


It is unlawful to manufacture, transfer or possess a semiautomatic assault weapon as provided in 18 U.S.C. section 922 (v) . However, a semiautomatic assault weapon, which was lawfully possessed under Federal law on September 13, 1994, may still be lawfully possessed and transferred.

 

An SKS rifle with a fixed, non-detachable magazine is not a semiautomatic assault weapon. An SKS rifle having a detachable magazine and only 1 of the qualifying features (i) - (v) is not a semiautomatic assault weapon.

 

Section 922(r), of Title 18, U.S.C. prohibits assembly of certain semiautomatic rifles from imported parts. The implementing regulations in Title 27, Code of Federal Regulations (CFR) section 178.39(a), provide that no person shall assemble a semiautomatic rifle or any shotgun using more than 10 of the imported parts listed in paragraph (c) of this section if the assembled firearm is prohibited from importation under section 925(d) (3) as not being particularly suitable for or readily adaptable to sporting purposes. Please see the enclosed brochure for a list of the 20 parts in paragraph (c) (27 CFR 178.39(c)).

 

An SKS rifle with a folding stock and a fixed or detachable magazine, is prohibited from importation under Section 925 (d) (3) ; therefore, assembly of such a rifle is prohibited if the rifle contains more than 10 of the imported parts listed in 27 CFR 178.39(c). If the rifle contains only 10 or less of the listed imported parts assembly of the rifle is not prohibited under section 922 (r).

 

Certain SKS rifles in a sporter configuration with detachable magazines were formerly approved for importation; however, sporterized military style rifles having an ability to accept a large capacity military magazine are now prohibited from importation. Any SKS rifles with detachable magazines which we have seen would no longer be approved for importation.


An SKS style rifle with a fixed magazine and a bullpup style stock and none of the features listed in the semiautomatic assault weapon definition (18 U.S.C. § 921(a) (30) (B)) would possibly qualify for importation; however, we are not able to render an opinion on a hypothetical firearm of this type without precise information on the configuration of the rifle and the stock.

 

We trust that the foregoing has been responsive to your inquiry. If you have further questions concerning this matter, please contact us.

 

Sincerely yours,

 

  

Curtis H.A. Bartlett

Acting Chief, Firearms Technology Branch

 

 

MY LETTER REGARDING THE ASSAULT BAN

6/1/2000

 

To: Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms
       Firearms Technology Branch
       650 Massachusetts Avenue, NW. Room 6450
       Washington, DC 20226

From:  David Sutherland

Houston, TX. 77032

 

Dear Sir or Madam:

 

I am writing to request clarification regarding the BATF’s current legal stance regarding the SKS carbine.  The questions I have for your department specifically relate to the assault rifle ban and are as follows:  

 

1)      If an individual owns a verifiably pre-ban SKS, is it legal for them to add a

      folding stock to the rifle today? 

2)      An individual purchases a SKS that includes a folding stock and the seller indicates in writing the entire rifle has been in its present state since before the ban.  If the buyer still has doubts, could the buyer call the BATF to verify whether or not the rifle genuinely holds pre-ban status?  If not, how can the new gun owner gather proof that the rifle is indeed of pre-ban status?

3)      If the seller is fraudulent in representing an SKS carbine as pre-ban, what should the new owner of the SKS do to protect himself from federal litigation?

4)      Another man has added a folding stock to his SKS in 1983.  At the time this man added the folding stock to his rifle, he never anticipated that it would one day become illegal to perform this modification to SKS carbines, so he never documented the conversion or saved any receipts.  How can this man protect himself from accusations or litigation today? 

 

I sincerely appreciate your efforts in responding to this letter,  

 

David Sutherland  

 

 

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THE B.A.T.F'S RESPONSE REGARDING THE BAN

DEPARTMENT OF THE TREASURY

 BUREAU OFALCOHOL, TOBACCO AND FIREARMS

WASHINGTON, DC 20226

   

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3311/0-542

 

15803 Archduke Drive

Houston, Texas 77032

 

Dear Mr. Sutherland,

 

This refers to your letter of June 1, 2000, requesting information relative to SKS rifles and their status under the “assault rifle ban.”

 

The law you refer to as the “assault weapon ban” is part of the Gun Control Act of 1968. Specifically that part of the law that defines the term “semiautomatic assault weapon” is Title 18, United States Code (U.S.C.), Chapter 44, section 921(a) (30). In part, this defines a semiautomatic assault weapon as:

 

(B) a semiautomatic rifle that has the ability to accept a detachable magazine and has at least two of­

 

(i) a folding or telescoping stock,

 

(ii) a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon,

 

(iii) a bayonet mount,

 

(iv) a flash suppressor or threaded barrel designed to accommodate a flash suppressor; and

 

(v) a grenade launcher.

 

If your SKS rifle has a fixed magazine of any capacity (a magazine that cannot be removed from the rifle without first removing the trigger assembly) it could not be defined as a semiautomatic assault weapon as it does not have a detachable magazine.

 

Additionally, alterations to imported semiautomatic rifles are governed by the provisions of Title 18 U.S.C., Chapter 44, section 922(r), and the regulations in Title 27, Code of Federal Regulations (CFR), Part 178, section 178.39.

 

Title 18 U.S.C., Chapter 44, section 922(r), in part, provides that “It shall be unlawful for any person to assemble from imported parts any semiautomatic rifle or any shotgun which is identical to any rifle or shotgun prohibited from importation under section 925(d) (3), of this chapter as not being particularly suitable for or readily adaptable to sporting purposes.

 

Title 27 CFR, Part 178, section 178.39, governs the assembly of semiautomatic rifles using parts of imported origin and provides a list of 20 parts of which no more than 10 of those named parts may be present in the final assembly of a semiautomatic rifle.

 

A copy of the “Federal Firearms Regulations Reference Guide” is enclosed for your reference.

 

Referring to the four specific questions in your letter, the first two will be addressed in the order they appear.

 

(1) “If an individual owns a verifiably pre-ban SKS is it legal for them to add a folding stock to the rifle today?”

 

Installation of a folding stock to an SKS rifle would be a violation of Title 18 U.S.C., Chapter 44, section 922 (r), as quoted above unless no more than 10 of the 20 named parts listed in 27 CFR, section 178.39, are of foreign origin.

 

Further, depending on other features of the SKS rifle, if it was able to accept a detachable magazine, the addition of a folding stock could cause the rifle to be classified as a semiautomatic assault weapon manufacture of which would be a violation of Title 18 U.S.C., section 922(v) (1)

 

(2) “An individual purchases an SKS that includes a folding stock and the seller indicates in writing the entire rifle has been in its present state since before the ban. If the buyer still has doubts, could the buyer call the BATF to verify whether or not the rifle genuinely holds pre-ban status? If not, how can the new gun owner gather proof that the rifle is indeed of pre-ban status?”

 

The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms has no information available to determine such a status of an imported firearm. If an individual has doubts as to the legal status of a firearm, the best course of action would be to decline the purchase or possession of the firearm.

 

Questions three and four relating to steps an individual can take to protect himself from litigation relating to purchase or possession of an illegally altered firearm are outside the expertise of ‘this office and should be addressed to an attorney.

 

We trust that the foregoing has been responsive to your inquiry. If we can be of any further assistance, please contact us.

 

Sincerely yours,

 

Curtis H.A. Bartlett

Acting Chief, Firearms Technology Branch

 

 

 

 

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